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Episode #33 — Cria Cruevos / “Strangeways, Here We Come” / Smithfield Ham / Relax / The Brothers Lionheart / Alias

Cria Cruevos podcast review

The Immortals are back together for Sarah returned from her journey to save Adam! Just in time to discuss an abstract Spanish film dealing with grief from the eyes of a child! Whoo! They also discuss how pretentious are The Smiths, whether ham is better than turkey, how gay is the song Relax, how weird is the book The Brothers Lionheart and how dumb is Alias. Get excited!

Intro 0:00 – 3:27
Cria Cruevos 3:27 – 31:04
“Strangeways, Here We Come” 31:04 – 39:05
Smithfield Ham 39:05 – 47:14
Relax 47:14 – 56:39
The Brothers Lionheart 56:39 – 1:07:20
Alias 1:07:20 – 1:30:00
Outro 1:30:00 – 1:35:42


–Austin was wrong; the album is called Strangeways, not Strangeaways. Stupid notes.

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  1. Andrew Rostan

    I can remember watching a few episodes of “Alias” and not “getting it.” C’est la vie. I agree that Victor Garber is one of those actors who is ALWAYS good.
    I have never heard an entire Smiths album all the way through except their greatest hits record. That said, “Girlfriend in a Coma” is one of my two favorite songs of theirs, in large part because it is so short and to the point and never loses steam. (My other favorite is “Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now,” which may be the ultimate title for any Smiths song.)
    “Relax” is one of the ultimate 80s songs and I would give it 4-4.5 hedges because it is such a perfect pop record. Trevor Horn is one of my favorite producers because of the meticulousness of his style…my favorite song he produced, which I would not be surprised to find is on the list, is Seal’s “Kiss From a Rose.”
    Here’s one of those oddities I find interesting: on Frankie Goes to Hollywood’s first (of only two) albums, a record that boasted “Relax” and two other British number one hits, they covered both “War” and “Born to Run.” Bruce Springsteen heard about the latter cover…and on his 1984-85 world tour, he and the E Street Band started playing “War” with an arrangement VERY SIMILAR to that of Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Springsteen released his “War” as a single and it made the top ten in the USA. For some reason it never gets played on the radio.
    Finally, I grew up on ham sandwiches. I LOVE ham. One of my favorite recipes now is to dump a can of sauerkraut, a pound of cut-up potatoes, a pound of bratwurst or kielbasa, and a pound of ham into the crock pot, pour a bottle of beer over it, and let it slow cook nine hours. It’s amazing.

  2. alvaret


    Fan of Brothers Lionheart so had to comment (with spoilers)… I actually really enjoyed your discussion but I think that this might be one of those books that are easier to understand as a child. As a child I remember it (and the movie) as being sad and exciting and hopeful and had no trouble with the ending, only I did assume that it must continue in another book.

    It is worth noting that Sweden is a very secular country so many children do not have the comfort of believing in heaven and even for many who do it is often a rather vague concept but children still think of and fear death. Lindgren knew that and writes about death on a child’s level and it is scary and horrible and very sad, just as in life, but she doesn’t end there, that is just the first two chapters and when you have faced them everything gets better and there is hope. After that we get some adventures and family love and exciting places for a while to recover before she gradually introduces the topic of death again and it is still terrible and it is still sad but after having faced those first chapters it can never get as bad 🙂 And throughout the book is this beautiful discussion about courage, about how it is ok to be scared and on how we can find the courage to continue anyway. The book basically takes this scary concept of death and and let quite young children meet it in various ways until it is not as scary. Also the book is in the most part not particularly scary or sad but more of an adventure story which makes it manageable. Although you could in principle see the end as a suicide I would argue that this is a bit of a special case (at least I never thought of it as a suicide as a child). This is about the young brother who throughout the book has been afraid of death but who finally, although still scared, manage to face it when he has to. It always leves me with a feeling of hope. There is also another interpretation here, left for adult readers, but I have already written a massive comment so I think I’ll leave it. I am sure that you can tell from the length of my comment that this book is an absolute favorite of mine… 🙂

    • Leigh - Immortal

      Now THIS made me want to read it. Your description makes it sound much less morbid than how Austin and Adam described it. And Wikipedia for that matter.

      If I ever have free time again, I might try to pick it up!

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